I'm Curious!

[cloud]

I was thinking and reading the relationship boards with StarClan cats needing love, too, and I thought, what would happen if... Erm, I'm no good at explaining,l et me write a scenario..... Maybe just cuz I feel like it. XD

Baconface dies and flies up into StarClan at the ripe age of thirty moons. A little while later, his old mate, Cowface, joins him. During their time on earth, they were in love, but because Cowface had a complication they would never be able to have the kits they so much desired. They say StarClan is a paradise, and ill cats are healed. Can Baconface and Cowface now have kits? Would the kits be just, you know, born dead in StarClan, skipping life? Would they crash down to earth in a meteor shower?

I was just wondering, no matter the answer, this may be a fun thing to play out. I'd be willing to make a tom for this, Spiderfoot. If anyone has any answers or ideas, just... lemme know.

[Yoko]

XD That's soooo ridiculously funny! I don't have a clue, no ones ever asked! I guess I just assumed there were plenty of dead kits in StarClan cause a lot die in birth and forest life.

[cloud]

Yeah..... Hmm, makes ya wonder, no? I really have no clue.

Gah, this was a reminder to me of Rping on Neo. There actually was a Cowface, named after this magical cow, and I remember because the last sentence of her description was, "And she was named for resembling, with her spotting, the fabled cow." 0.o and then there was a Baconpaw. I'm not joking. :/ Then there was a Mapleleaf, and I thought that was fine, but they finished every sentence with "Eh?" because they were poking fun at Canada. XD XD

[:c a i:]

I've thought about this too before. No, in my opinion, they wouldn't have kits. After death, it's just not something that would... I don't know, matter to them? StarClan cats are essentially beyond life, whilst kits are new lives. But this brings us onto a big, real-life philosophical discussion. The situation you described could also be asked about the afterlife for humans (if believed in). A couple who couldn't have a child during their life but wanted one more than anything - Do they get the one thing that would have made them happy in supposed paradise? Bit of a difficult thing to answer.

Sorry about the philosophical ramble. In this context, I would say no. Things aren't born into death. StarClan cats aren't quite alive and wouldn't have kits, but at the same time I think they'd somehow be all right with that.

[cloud]

Wow.... That was mind boggling.... Good answer. I suppose a kit-wanting couple could adopt a stillborn kit or something, even if that would take away some fun, seeing as the kit wouldn't really age. XD

EDIT: Or, super neat idea (at least in my twisted mind) Let me write another scenario, hmm?

Baconface and Cowface cannot have a kit. Then they look down to Cowface's living sister, Buckteeth, who is heading into the nursery with her own litter inside. The strange powers of StarClan create a kit for Cowface and Baconface, then stick it into Buckteeth's unborn litter. A few moons later Buckteeth gives birth to her litter, along with the CowxBacon kit. That kit is born dead, and is welcomed into StarClan as Snotkit.

That way, they sort of use a sort of carrier for their kit. StarClan cats are so mysteriously powerful, don't you think they'd be capable of that? It would be so cool!

[:c a i:]

They're too busy being all supernatural and confusing. ^_^ They understand more than normal cats and I think cats would have different wants once they join StarClan.

Do kits not age? I think it seems rather unfair! I mean, would a kit who died immediately be a blind, helpless kit for all eternity?? O.o

Edit: No! That seems horrible =O A poor kit going straight to StarClan just because Baconface and Cowface want a kit? It's not just about Bacon and Cow. Thsi reminds me of our Latin set text... Something about a black day snatching infants from their mother's breast on the threshold of the sweet life which they had no share in and plunged into bitter death. It's very sad. ^.^ But yes. StarClan doesn't manipulate things for their own gain.

[Yoko]

I thought we discussed this already. Still-born kits age into mobility and sight when they enter StarClan and then stop aging.

[cloud]

Well, I suppose you're right. Well, then, I suppose that settles that! So, in conclusion, I guess they could just take a deceased kit under their wing or something.

[. s p o r e l e t t ♪]

Yeahhhhh I'm pretty sure newborn/stillborn kits just get their eyes and ears "healed" when they go to StarClan, like an injury, but they stay as kits. Which kind of sucks for them because I always thought it would be cool if dead kits could actually grow up eventually in StarClan, but then that doesn't make a lot of sense. So my guess remains that cats remain as they died once they enter StarClan.

But I have my own little theory where, once a dead cat doesn't see any reason to continue existing (i.e. perhaps all of their kin have been dead for generations and they don't really take any interest in the living or the dead any longer) then maybe they kind of... fade out of existance and become a memory-less, appearance-less, newborn soul ready to be born into a new cat. =o

[☆ Y e l l o w ☆]

That's a cool idea, Spore. I always sort of wondered about the truly ancient cats, the ones that made up the Clans when they were first created. I guess it's possible. ^^

[Kitty]

Hmmm how long ago do you think the forest first came to be? The Clans, I mean. Moon-wise. I'm planning my next StarClan cat to be one that was around moons and moons and moons ago, like around the time the Clans and StarClan first came around. >=3

[. s p o r e l e t t ♪]

It was a looooooong long time ago. Years and years. I don't even want to try and guess.

[:c a i:]

That's like trying to figure out how old the Earth is without any technology. ^_^ You can't do it.

[Kitty]

XDD
Oh well. I'll just...I dunno. I'll make him/her like 600 or 700 moons old. XDD that's probably still not far enough back though. XD Oh wellll.

[. s p o r e l e t t ♪]

50-58 years? Sure, I guess that could work. That's a lot.